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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

larsre wrote:
hat vorher auch nicht geklappt, gleiches Problem, sonst hätte ich nichts an der Bautrate. Außerdem hatte ich es so verstanden, dass es nur die Bautrate zum PC ist und nicht die des NMEA Einganges. Nach dem Firmware Update steht sie ja sicher wieder auf 4800.


Nach dem Update steht sie wieder auf 4800 Baud, wenn und nur wenn Du das EEProm File mit flashst. Die Baudrate wird im EEProm gespeichert.

Die Baudrateneinstellung gilt für beides.
Für NMEA und RS232 zum PC.

Es gibt nur eine serielle Schnittstelle !!

Diese eine serielle Schnittstelle kann von EINER Quelle Daten empfangen
( PC via RS232 oder NMEA )
und sie kann auf ZWEI Ports Daten rausschreiben.
( Gleichzeitig RS232 und NMEA )

Mit dem Jumper selektierst Du, ob die serielle Schnittstelle der Bridge ihre Daten vom RS232 Eingang oder von NMEA Eingang bekommt.

Die Baudrate gilt aber für beide Ports.
( Da es ja nur einen seriellen Port gibt )

Man kann also nicht schneller/langsamer zum PC sprechen wie zur NMEA Schnittstelle.

Ich hoffe das ist halbwegs verständlich ausgedrückt.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Die erste Datei hat er geladen, jetzt steht das Programm schon seit einer Minute so:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,
und wenn man nun die Bridge mit Strom versorgt, dann sollte es losgehen.....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ups sorry - sehe gerade, dass das Programm ja schon sagt,

Programming. Please wait.

Steht der Jumper auf RS232 ?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ja und die erste Datei ist durchgelaufen (nach dem Start der Stromversorgung ) und seitdem steht das Programm seit Minuten so. ich traue mich nicht die Stromversorgung auszumachen.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was bedeutet "Die erste Datei hat er geladen".

Heisst das, dass der schon was progammiert hat ?


EEPRom Programming ist nicht angeklickt.
Dann schreibt er das EEProm nicht.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

larsre wrote:
ja und die erste Datei ist durchgelaufen (nach dem Start der Stromversorgung ) und seitdem steht das Programm seit Minuten so. ich traue mich nicht die Stromversorgung auszumachen.


Wenn ich recht verstehe, dann hat der das Flash File programmiert.
EEProm sollte er ja nicht programmieren. Also denkt er er ist fertig.

Du kannst noch "EEprom Programming" anklicken, und die Stromversorgung entfernen und wieder anschliessen. Dann sollte er beides nochmal programmieren.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, Sie läuft wieder und stürzt auch nicht ab nach einschalten des GPS (super). ich sehe aber bei Putty kein RMC oder GLL. (ich habe den Jumper auf NMEA in). Hab eine aktive Route, die er im beim (NMEA in des AP in der 4000+) zeigt.

Laut Bedienungsanleitung soll er dieses Senden:







das Protokoll sieht gerade so aus:
Code:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

muss ich das NMEA ECHO einstellen?
Also umjumpers; ECHO an und wieder umjumpern?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

larsre wrote:
muss ich das NMEA ECHO einstellen?
Also umjumpers; ECHO an und wieder umjumpern?


Ja. ( $SNBSE,4,1 ) und neu booten !

Bisher sehe ich nur von SeaTalk generierte Daten.
( Alles was mit II anfängt )

Wenn das Echo aus ist, dann schickt der die empfangenen NMEA Daten nicht wieder raus, sondern wandelt sie nur in SeaTalk um.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, das habe ich gemacht. Wieder Jumper geändert, dann sieht es so aus:

Quote:
=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2012.04.08 22:36:52 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
÷$STVER,1.58,BRIDGE*4B
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.....
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....

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Immernoch nur II Datensätze.

Kann ich den Plotter irgendwie am Comport testen? (NMEA- an GND und NMEA + an Rx)? oder muss da nen Bauteil zwischen? Bin langsam mit meinem ABC am Ende.

Wäre es ungewöhnlich, wenn er eine andere er nicht 4800 sendet? (wobei dann kann Autoheln den wohl auch nicht empfangen). Kabellänge (Plotter - zu Bridge ca. 3 meter). Laut Voltmeter kommen dan so max 3,5 volt an

Kann es sein, dass der Plotter Daten sendet, die die Bridge nicht versteht?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

larsre wrote:

Kann ich den Plotter irgendwie am Comport testen? (NMEA- an GND und NMEA + an Rx)? oder muss da nen Bauteil zwischen?


Ja, das geht normalerweise. RS422 ( NMEA ) entspricht zwar nicht dem RS232 Protokoll, aber der Treiberchip versteht das trotzdem.

larsre wrote:

Kann es sein, dass der Plotter Daten sendet, die die Bridge nicht versteht?


Well - glaube ich nicht.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, habe ich gemacht.

Das sendet der Plotter:
Quote:
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$ECVTG,000.0,T,,,000.0,N,000.0,K,A*51
$ECZDA,211232,08,04,2012,,*55
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$ECGLL,5424.154,N,01013.012,E,211233,A,A*51
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$ECVTG,000.0,T,,,000.0,N,000.0,K,A*51
$ECZDA,211233,08,04,2012,,*54
$ECGLL,5424.154,N


Also Daten bei den selben putty comport Einstellungen.
hmmm nun bin ich am Ende meines ABC...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schon mal 1000000 Dank für diesen Support, Du hilfst wirklich weltklasse!

Hast Du eine Idee wie ich es weiter eingrenzen oder testen kann?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also -

Ich hab noch zwei Ideen.

1.)
Ist das schwarze Kabel mit GND von der Bridge verbunden ?
Ich hatte mal ein GMDSS Funkgerät, dessen NMEA Eingang nur funktioniert hat wenn ich Bridge GND mit Funkgerät GND verbunden hatte.
Wurde zwar alles von den gleichen 12Volt versorgt - trotzdem war es so.



2.) Du hast ja die NMEA Daten am PC mit der RS232 eingelesen.
Das gleich kann man mit der Bridge machen.

Verbindung Bridge RxD an PC abtrennen.
( Also einfach Kabel aus Bridge RxD rausziehen und "bei Seite" legen)

NMEA- an Bridge GND
NMEA + an Bridge RxD
Jumper auf RS232

Bridge TxD und Bridge GND wie gehabt an Schnittstelle zum PC lassen.

Jetzt empfängt die Bridge die Datem vom Plotter über ihren RxD Eingang und sendet sie über ihren TxD Ausgang an den PC.

Quote:
Schon mal 1000000 Dank für diesen Support, Du hilfst wirklich weltklasse!

Aber wir müssen es noch zum laufen kriegen. Vorher hören wir nicht auf Smile
Erst dann hat sich der Support auch gelohnt.
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